I think a lot of his leadership is led by example. He works incredibly hard in practice. And on the ice, I think you see how hard he works in all three zones. Obviously, grinding through some issues this year, and, you know, really trying to grind through it for the team.
I think maybe not the most vocal captain I've ever had, but everybody leads differently, right? You can't be the most vocal and the most leading by example, you can't, you can't do it all. It's just, it's hard to find those guys.